K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.
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These seem fairly rare which seems at odds with their use over a time period of 5 years or more. For examples of hammering on these s cymbals go to the hammering page. In the older catalogs they list catalogi and thicknesses and then suggest what that combination might be good for. The H directly over E alignment is a good method, but it doesn’t help when the bottom of the stamp is poorly pressed in.
Press the back button in your browser to go back to the previous page or back to zilvjian introduction page. If you think that is far fetched, then consider a purely English calligraphic device: Often the most obvious distinguishing feature is that the edges of the catapogo stamp are pressed in more firmly and this shows particularly in the deeper Zildjia of Z ildjian and o of C o.
The ink on the top is much smaller and the style of the K is reminiscent of the Canadian Ks. In addition, this Canadian version has a very Trans Stamp like property: Since I started looking more closely I’ve identified more than 5 variations of these Pre Trans stamps, and what I’ve found overturns the whole simple notion of “First” versus “Second”.
But it may be difficult to dislodge ” stamp” as a term because it has become established. If it looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck Product Announcement go to Avedis by Years. For examples of Trans Stamp hammering, go to the hammering page. A Zildjian Laser Trademark Image: Zenjian-Ludwig stamp Alejian for Slingerland s Image: Hollow Ink Logo is very different to the Hollow Block.
One was produced in the same way as the Avedis cymbals of the day. But I don’t believe Bill has a publication available with 4 sub types with the official names and type specimens the photos and identifying features which would establish them. Feb 10, 8.
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You now have a time machine at your fingertips. Because hammering varies from cymbal to cymbal there is overlap between the styles of these three eras. As we work through the decades, the current ink styles will also be shown. From this period on the interest in the die stamps seems to have waned. The following image does a better job of illustrating the late 50s characteristic relatively bold ZILDJIAN and Ottoman sections, as well as showing how different the same die stamp can look depending on the details of how firmly it is pressed in and which portions are pressed in the most.
I tend to treat all specific year references as “plus or minus a year or two”. But when we talk about ” the three dots ” it is the ones in a triangle in the Ottoman section upper portion of the stamp.
But those changes are later in the series s onwards. And it also has the three dots.
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There are two 18″ HBs in my reference collection. For examples of the sort of hammering to expect on these 70s Zilco by AZCO cymbals see the catallogo page. You need a decent photo in order to see the difference but I’ve found that once I got my eye trained up using my reference collection I can use it reliably. Cataloggo on a more modern note, somebody has put the weight of grams on this one. Discussion in ‘ Cymbal Talk ‘ started by mlucasFeb 9, All the key attributes are there to be seen.
But you can still see the hammer marks on both sides if you look closely in most cases. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Ottoman section, so this is one way to tell you are looking at a Pre Trans Stamp cymbal.
The hammering and other production clues tell you when the cymbal was made. But beware, despite the name Small Stamp they ctalogo the smallest ones.
The next stamp s is slightly smaller. There are cymbals which are hammered and lathed in the style in use around the last days of hand hammering for shape, or the early days of developing the Quincy Drop Hammer. Cataloo, there are other subtle changes which happen in the Ottoman portion and the English portion which can be an aid to establishing manufacturing era.
Pre Trans stamps till the later s The Pre Trans stamps are the earliest of the Avedis Zildjian trademark stamps. If you can’t manage that, you could even use a ruler and hold it against your screen. And there are also some stamps which say Made in Canada.